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Holy crap, a short post from Cromis!

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Also, in regards to option 2 (get on board with DC open raids), why do Tem and Destiny members not get points on DC open raids?

I dont understand this hurdle, the open raids could use those well geared toons even if they show up sporadically.

(has anyone from DC posted in this thread yet?)

It was my intention to create a way for anyone who wanted to to getting access to the planes and get better geared. I am in a guild of 6 or 7, slightly more than the 3 mentioned previously. Thank you once again Temerity for the education. I have always hated exclusivity, both in and out of the the game (it is just a game?). The first lesson you taught me Temerity is that I like to matter more than I want better gear. And the second lesson you have taught me is I can't have both. I can live with that. After the posts by Temerity members, first plugging their guild and then attacking my posts once I expressed I was not happy with my experience with them I no longer feel comfortable working with people that are wear a Temerity tag. That means I would not be comfortable starting something that is open to all on the server. Being that I have no wish to start something exclusive, I choose to not start anything at all. The advice to work with DC on their progression is good advice and I plan to follow that advice.

I have no desire to spare with the members of Temerity anymore; lets just agree to disagree. I see Temerity as a parsite that sits on top of all the other guilds on the server recruiting their higher level members and preventing them from progressing. And Temerity members see.... Well you all will see it when they post it; I won't. This is my last post on EQmac.com; I am leaving this forum for good. If you are a friend, please feel free to contact me in game, if you are not, pleasse don't.

One last thing I would like to point out before I log off for the final time. Read the posts on this forum refering Utdaans relationship with SOE and then go to the Temerity and read the Lizardking application (about Feb/Mar of this year). This is by no means conclusive, but this makes me suspiscious of Temerity's access to other player's account information. Please keep that in mind.

So long and good riddence.

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Aetheas - Wood Elf Druid of Sanctuary
Didgeridoo - Vah Shir Bard of Sanctuary

Please stay with the guild that helped gear and level you up.

Haha, no, because judging from Kawaii's thread it looks like Didgeridoo is the only person who actually cares about raiding PoP who isn't already part of a PoP guild.

What a hilarious eight page circle jerk.

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Refuse, rubbish, filth, slime, muck and other alt-putrescence:
[ Drat | Dart | Zounds | Slouch | Pouch ]

Or maybe not everyone has the need to chime in with "this will never work" or "you're an idiot for thinking that" every time somebody makes a thread about an idea.

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Official Thread Killer

I will be hosting open breast feeding raids every Wednesday, at 5 pm eastern time. We will be progressing to the underpants planes, attendees will be expected to bring their shrink devices, keys, and breast pumps.

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Thuule
Kagab
Easterbunny

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<Sanctuary>
Q: Do real barbarians eat quiche?
A: Real barbarians would hack and slay anyone who offered them quiche to eat, and would then stomp the quiche until it was totally flat. Barbarians are like that.
-Dragon #19

I'm trying really hard to stop replying, but I can't help it. I'll try to keep this one short and clipped.



Actually these cases you speak of are some of the exact same ones backing my point about the progression-minded stuck in the lower-tier guilds. I was friends with a few of these guys you mention, and I can tell you for sure that in at least one case the primary reason for quitting the server was the stress and guilt about having left Horde (and it being reinforced all the time by running into other former members, and those peoples' new attitudes towards them), rather than anything to do with Tem. I don't know for sure on the rest, I haven't been back that long anyways and wasn't around for an exit interview or anything.



If you had a bad experience as an applicant to Temerity, we could hash that out as a separate thread somewhere. Here or over on the Term boards, your choice. Most of us made it through the application process fine though. It's not really grueling or anything, and there's usually a number of bored boxers outside raid times to help with lower-end keying/flagging issues. I have no idea about your application, since I wasn't around at the time.

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THIS!

also, didgeridoo, you should check your head. maybe go outside for a while. i think you're getting a little bent out of shape over this.

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Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be, alive and breathing.

Yay Derail!

Digressing here a bit for the heck of it, but Karpan in my eyes, is better geared than the warriors Dest have on the Allakabor website. He only sacrifices 100 hp for 100 AC compared to Wisky, and 100 hp for 250 AC compared to Elleb. Not a knock on anyone, this is more of a correction than anything.

And I think 95% of tanks would make that stat trade ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

Im curious of Manlee and Thuule's gear, I see Lana has more AC than Karpan which is pretty awesome

(and holy s* Beld is gaining on me like a roadrunner! )

Back to your regularly scheduled discussion...

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ALL OUF OUR WARRIORS WERE FOUND IN A USED TANK BIN AT A GARAGE SALE FROM THE 80S YOU MAY REFER TO THEM AS BALKI AND COUSIN LARRY

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Thuule
Kagab
Easterbunny

Thuule THIS made my day! Thank you! Oh, btw, I get off work at 4:00 Pacific time, will there be CoH for latecomers?

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Rysia Belladonna 65 Wood Elf Rogue
Daria Vervain 65 Wood Elf Druid
Carolee Nightshade 65 Gnome Necromancer
Eraiya Meadowsweet 65 High Elf Enchanter
Kylie Santolina 65 Gnome Magician
Therma Nuclear 65 Dark Elf Wizard
Lillie Hawthorn 65 Human Monk
Karia Melilot 65 Halfling Druid
Lisbeth Artemisias 65 Iksar Shaman
Portia Carrera 65 Half Elf Bard

<Temerity>

Latecomers will be provided with supplemental formula and bottles.

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Thuule
Kagab
Easterbunny

Hi all!

This is my first post on this website!! So excited, i hope i dont fail..

To start off, i think i may or may not have started this thread unintentionally when i was talking in alliance chat about open raids with more than a bit of interest. So, sorry ahead of time if it brought unwanted attention to the idea. I'v read about 80% of this thread so far and to be honest i dont know where to begin, so if its out of order i'm sorry.

This thread, in my opinion, was brought forth as an idea for open raids. Now then.. I completely understand some of the uncomfortable feelings towards open raids and banding together for PoP progression. I've read that some feel it would kill the server if goal was achieved. Which is a big leap of faith in accepting it could happen, so thank you. But the thought process behind this i feel like is a little too...dramatic i guess. Though i dont know if its the right word. Kudos to Temerity for making it to EP's. And awesome you guys are still throwing everything you have at it to make it to time. I hope you guys do reach it and soon. With that said, an open raid based non-guild defined organization would still meet the same obstacles you have and had. And quite frankly you guys have been at the planes for a while now. So the idea of the server dying due to End game content being reached is still YEARS away if at all by an open raid. Again this is all in my opinion.

I've seen applause. I've seen scorn. I've seen some indifference. And everyone is entitled to their own. The open raid goal in my eyes is exploring the content with as much enjoyment as possible. Thats all this game has ever been for me. And im sure for a lot of others too. End game would be awesome, dont get me wrong, but it should be about enjoying yourself first and foremost. I would be happy to join an open raid and put my best effort as a shaman into killing Grummus. And if i died, i still tried and i still had fun. Hands down.

Every guild on this server has a right to be there. Every guild has a right to recruit. Every guild has the right to have fun, being whatever it may be. I don't believe there really is an imbalance to the guilds. Some people like to hit that high end content and put the most into it. Some like the social type guild to kind of lay back and enjoy a more relax game play. Some like that small band of adventurers using those small tricks and doing the best they can with the numbers they get.

Sometimes i just feel like as soon as an idea comes up that could possibly increase the enjoyment of game play for people, theirs always those people who have to stomp it down. And i try to put myself in their shoes, try to see how they see it but sometimes it comes off as just negative with no valid reason for the things they say. And before anyone says something, im not talking about anyone in specific. I want to make that clear.

At the beginning of this thread, it should have been offered as an idea. Then their should have been hands thrown up, so to speak, if they wanted to join in on the fun. Something should have been put together. But none of it was done. Instead i read on the thread here of name calling, accusations and just general bickering.

hmmm a lot of things floating in my mind. Im sorry for my poor attempt at a post to this thread. Could just be viewed as muttering i guess lol.

Do you know why i think it would be cool to have an open raid? I haven't seen any of the planar bosses on this server yet. And i love my guild, Dark Conquest, and i want to progress with them. I want to raid with Temerity and see how proficient they are. The only guild to hit elementals on Al'Kabor. I want to raid with Destiny to see how big of a destructive force they have! They were in VT, wound through it and smashed end boss content of luclin lightning quick. I want to raid with Pathfinders and see how tight their strategies are and how well they lock down their targets in encounters. I'm not tooting any horns. Its just things i hear through word of mouth (or typing). And where could i get all of this besides an open raid hosted by no guild inperticular? Maybe im just being selfish. Maybe others are as well with not wanting to help others progress as a side effect of enjoying a raid with us. I don't know.

Theirs more on my mind or at least was but i just wrote all this down and now i forget what those things were lol. Part of me doesn't want to post this because i feel like some people might think something different then the meaning im trying to get across.

With this being said. If people do want to try out this open raid idea, let me see a show of hands. I'll be happy to try and lead something fun on a night most, if not all, guilds don't raid. I'd love to try and experience something new with everyone.

Thank guys!

Oh also i do see some questions about DC and their goals. I'm avoiding the question altogether, its just i dont know how to answer them and i feel that if i was to do so i would be assuming the acting voice for the guild which i do not want nor would it be appreciated by karpan, im sure. I'm sure the way the loot system was made that way for a reason.

Dark Conquest is not a stepping stone though. If you wish to join us, your more than welcome to. Assert yourself and Just get yar damn keys! Which is assuming the same message for any applicant or raider joining a guild on their adventure!