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Hi yall,

I'm a newcomer, Roqq is only 55 and it's my only toon right now.

I have seen many people 'boxing' 2 toons and I think its great. Many people would like to box but are not willing to pay the extra $$/month to do so (that includes me too).

With that in mind, I thought about a boxer association. Association members will gain access to a list of accounts they can login to along with their main. Passwords would be shared with a list of what characters and levels are available. Each member will only have to pay a fraction (like $1 or 2/mo) of the cost and get all the benefits. To top it all, these shared toons will go up in level much faster since they will be used by many. Each account will have various characters that can be logged.

I would not mind opening the first 2 extra accounts and processing the payments via my company.

This is my no means a new guild proposition, this association would be open to all, guild or no guild. I understand that some guilds only allow extra characters if they are in the same guild, they would have to make an exception for this system.

Let me know if you think this is a good idea or not.

Roqq

I think all guilds have policies about all toons being in the same guild. Despite that, you would have to work out who gets to use the toons when etc. Make sure that no one is monopolizing the time on a bot. Not to mention having to trust the people who share the account to pay money and deal with it when they don't. Sounds like a big headache to me.

Personally I would say that if you want to box then just get the other account as the point of boxing, IMO, is to enhance your own experience and abilities. Ive found that I like giving my boxing a lot of tender loving care.

Within guilds there are certain toons that multiple players have access to for buffs or assistance.

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The idea of a "timeshare" account sounds interesting, but I'd read SOE's terms of service carefully. I know they get picky about transferring ownership of an account, and I'd bet they'd run screaming from the idea of several people sharing an account on the PC side.

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Nikolai Lianfyrr,
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I read the license agreement that pops up when the game launches, it says the user should not share a password. It also says anyone can get kicked off for any reason.

Maybe someone should ask SOE if it's OK, if not, to make a box account allowing 2 login for a few $ more per month? Or maybe because one has 2 computers one should also have the extra $ to pay for 1 more account... I bet there are more people holding back because they have to pay for a full account than people that are currently paying for an extra account.

I was not really thinking about the legal ramifications but it does sound like a side business or something... I was just trying to think about a way to help people train more toons, not to make any money out of it.

It would be nice to find a solution to that. Maybe each guild should ask for a little % in free accounts to use for box? This would also allow some people to experience different characters at different levels, adding to the fun...

I've had a few discussions about this topic in the past. I can't really speak to any one guild's policies, but some do require all toons a player has be tagged. Whether or not they'd consider a shared toon as needing to be tagged is another question. Most wont like a tagged toon, shared or not, accessed by anyone without the tag. IMHO, long as it wasn't tagged, I'd hope most were cool with the idea someone would want to share.

That, in fact, is where I would go with it. Rather than everyone pay in just make the toon available to those you know/trust would want to say try a class sometimes or otherwise join on an adventure say they wouldn't be old to make on their own. People are allowed to transfer accounts after all. So that one element should not conflict with SOE policy IMGHO.

Maybe someone else will be willing to pick up the bill on a rotating basis. That's what happens with a fair number of the boxes you see. Difference is they are former mains taken over by someone else (which always runs that risk of who really "owns" the toon).

If you don't have the extra cash to pay for another account you are playing too much everquest, and should be working.

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I was thinking about the same thing.

I started on this server with 1 Mac Mini, barely capable of running EQ well, let alone 2 accounts.

I now have many Macs, and want another toon. On PC, I had 4-5 accounts going at once. Main problem is, leveling is slow for anyone, I'm barely over lvl50, and I don't want to do it again.

I think Placer and Roqq has the right idea. I'd even be willing to pick up the tab on an account if that's what it takes to get going.

There has to be accounts lying around collecting dust.

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Elder Judah, Harvester of Tares Lichen

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not just the money, although $26 per month starts to add up for anyone, imagine the power to have access to many alts at any given time. To top it all, each user will help get the toon leveled...

Imagine the nightmare when some asstard goes and strips all the toons of dropable gear and then deletes the toons.

There is a reason why SOE has it in their TOS that you don't share you passwords.

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Here is a though, how about we call each toon mercenary alt1, mercenary alt2 or something like that... When a guild member wants to attend an event using a mercenary alt, he or she can log their main for identity purposes then the guild should consider the mercenary as a member of the guild for that session... Or maybe guilds can allow mercenaries as box only? I is understandable that every guild should say mercenaries can't loot.

One thing is for sure, if we find a way to make this work, there will be many more people boxing 2 and 3.

In my opinion, guilds should do everything they can to accommodate this concept.

It will be an honor system. Some people are jerks but mac users are usually not.

I've always thought that if you box at all, you are playing too much Everquest.

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Human wizard from Qeynos (Garrickk)

One of the draws of guilds is knowing who your fellow guild members are and working together for common goals and the good of that guild. With something like this, where people from various guilds or, as this seems, un-guilded people are using the same account, there would always be suspicion to the true identity of who was behind the box as well as their motives.

If specific guilds want to have boxed accounts for their members to use depending on situation, that would be okay in my opinion. I believe quite a few guilds already do this and limit the access to only highly trusted members.

To say that guilds should do everything they can to accommodate this concept is a bit off-putting. If this is what you want your OWN guild to be, then create one.

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I really cant see your idea working.

Forget about all the fair play rules you would have to bring in and the fact that people would want to equip all these toons differantly and the fact that they would not be very well equiped anyway, so on most raids they would be mince meat.

How on earth are you going to collect the money from all these people? What are you going to do when someone doesnt pay? what if you start with 2 accounts, then you only have enough people to pay for 1, which account gets closed, which toons do you lose.

The logistics are simply beyond that of a small community, thats why a large multi national like SOE collect the cash!

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